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Matching Necktie Knots With Shirt Collars

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Not Just A Knot

There are many different kinds of shirt collars and just as many ways to tie a tie. How should you pair them? Should you just use the classic four-in-hand for everything, or dabble in the dangerous world of Windsors? Let's take a look:

Size Matters

First of all, this advice assumes a person of average size. Big and/or tall men and men with wide necks are a bit more limited in their tie-knot choices, unless they invest in extra long ties. More complicated knots require you to use more of the tie. Without that extra length, a tie will appear comically short if you have a wide neck or long frame. So if you are big or tall, look for extra long ties or choose shirt collars that are appropriate for small knots like the four-in-hand or the Albert (which is like a four-in-hand with one extra turn around the tie before looping it through).

For big and/or tall men, extra long ties provide extra length needed for many tie knots.

Beyond this there are two things to consider for matching shirt collars to tie knots: The type of collar and its width. We will briefly describe some of the more common knots and collar types and then offer some advice about how to pair them.

Necktie Knot Types:

The first thing to note here is that each basic type of knot has several names. This can get confusing:

Four-in-hand, plain knot, regular knot and simple knot are the same. This is usually the first (and often the only) knot someone learns how to tie. It's the one where you cross the large part of the tie around the small part. Loop the large around the small part once and slip the end of the tie up under and through. Find out how to tie a four-in-hand-knot.

Prince Albert knot and double knot are the same. It is just like the four-in-hand but with one extra turn before the up under and through part. This makes for a somewhat wider knot than the four-in-hand.

The Half Windsor knot is sometimes called a single Windsor. It is a slightly more complex knot that resembles a double knot with one unusual loop (up and over the knot in between the tie and the neck, instead of a turn over the hanging small part of the tie) and has two named variants. The mirror image of a Half Windsor is called a St. Andrew knot. There is also a variation of the Half Windsor that starts with the tie upside down that is called a Pratt or Shelby knot. Check out our guide detailing how to tie a Half Windsor knot.

The Full Windsor knot, sometimes called a double Windsor, is the bulkiest of the classic knots and the most symmetrical. Let us help you learn how to tie a Full Windsor knot.

Dress Shirt Collar Types:

Button Down Collar: The classic dress shirt collar, with a button on each corner that attaches to the shirt.

Pinned Collar: Collars designed to have a pin stretch from one collar to the other. Sometimes called an "eyelet" collar.

Spread Collar: Collars that emphasize the edge of the collar—the 'spread' in which the tie knot sits—and the angle formed by the point where the upper edge of the collar meets the top button of the shirt. There is a lot of variation in spread collars, from narrow to very wide.

Straight Point Collar: A bit longer than a spread collar. It emphasizes the point of the collar as opposed to the edge.

Cutaway Collar: A cutaway collar is a spread collar that is cut in such a way to dramatically expose the top of the shirt, and thus the knot of the tie.

Pairing Knots With Collars:

Traditionally, one pairs a larger knot with a wider, more horizontal collar (especially in the case of cutaways) and pairs a narrower knot with a narrower or more vertical collar, like a button-down or straight point.

This holds true with few exceptions when it comes to narrow, vertical collars. A thick knot looks silly crunched in a narrow collar. Recently, however, some have started to favor skinny knots with wide collars. We have seen the influence of Prince Charles cited several times here. He has been seen pairing a four-in-hand with a cutaway on more than one occasion. Pairing a narrow knot with a wide collar only works with a thick tie, however. With a thinner tie, go with a Half Windsor or Full Windsor (or at least a double knot) for a wide spread or cutaway collar.

Four-in-hands and Half Windsors are preferred ties for pinned collars. Few, if any, use a Full Windsor for them.

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